3.04.2010

One of my favorite mice sent me this question (I've taken your name off for privacy, but tell me if it's okay to share, dearie!)

Mouse,


Can we talk about the b-word (budget)? My dad has generously offered to pay for the reception (specifically: venue rental, food, booze and favors). My fiance and I are responsible for everything else--photographer, DJ or live band (still undecided), flowers/centerpieces,
attire, programs, gifts, etc. Our guests are coming in from out-of-town, mostly, so it would be *nice* to do welcome gifts or bags, but it's probably not within our means. We haven't saved or put aside any money (thus far) for wedding stuff, and we are starting to panic a bit. Our wedding is September 4, which TheKnot so kindly reminds me is 190 days away. So, my question is: Do you and He-Mouse put money away each month for your wedding? Do you give yourself an amount of money you can spend each month on wedding stuff? Do you keep track of every wedding purchase? The only thing I've purchased is my dress. I feel incredibly behind and don't really know where to start. Budgeting is obviously not my thing. Any tips you could give me would be so very helpful.

Dear friend,

Well, shoot. This is tricky territory, not least because of the trouble with talking about money. I have thus far been avoiding the subject, because it's an intensely personal and localized part of the wedding planning. You know what I mean? It's so emotional that I could say my wedding in, say, Denver was going to cost 60 chickens. That would sound cheap to a New York bride, where even a venue costs 60 chickens, and terribly expensive to a Duluth bride, where 60 chickens is extravagant. And each of those three people would have all kinds of money baggage wrapped up in their judgment of the 60 chickens number, because 60 chickens might be equal to other things in life--a vacation, an inheritance, a car, a year's salary, a bonus check--depending on our careers and family financial situation. So I'm going to stay away from hard numbers, because it's all relative anyway.

(While we're at it, can I say I'm frustrated with the term "budget wedding"? Aren't almost ALL weddings budget weddings of some kind? Isn't a 300,000-chicken budget still a budget? What we mean is something else, I think.)

But I will outline our basic money situation. My stepfather left me a small amount of money when he passed away, to use for a wedding someday. He knew that it would be very difficult for He-Mouse and I to put away very much. My parents are each contributing an equal amount. All that is more or less available when we need it, which makes our budget very straightforward.

In the case of the question above, I think it's a lot trickier, and I'm sorry to tell you that the first thing I would do is sit down with a calculator and an Excel spreadsheet. Because I, my friends, I am a HOARDER. I save money like a champ. Here's my prescription:

1. Figure out how much you spend every month (here's a good way to set up a basic household budget). If you haven't yet combined incomes, do one budget for each of you.
2. Figure out where you can save money, each month, NO MATTER WHAT, for the wedding.
3. Add this up, each month, until September.
4. This figure needs to cover all the stuff your dad isn't paying for. If it can't possibly do so, perhaps you could talk to your dad about a dollar-amount contribution instead? That might give you more leeway--you could plan a Sunday brunch picnic wedding, for instance, and stretch the money farther.
5. Once you have figured out your monthly contribution to your wedding account, you have to hoard it. This means sticking it somewhere you won't touch it. NO, REALLY.* Get a separate bank account for the wedding, and only use it for the wedding. Or a milk jar. Or a piggy bank. Whatever works for you to keep the money separate.
6. Don't use credit cards unless you can pay them back right away. Don't go into debt for your wedding, is my opinion, because when you get married you're probably going to want to start some other big financial projects together.
7. Use a budgeting tool (see below) and decide how much money you can spend on each thing you'll need. Only spend that much. Space payments out so that you don't run down the wedding account. Put someone in charge of balancing it regularly.

I have found a bunch of resources that have helped me with money. The DIY articles, as much as I am not crafty by nature,** often include great tips on saving. I loved the piece Rachel of Heart of Light wrote on her sister's wedding--it ran in a series with a bunch of other great ideas on how to make the budget work. Broke-Ass Bride also ran a great guide to negotiation recently. At a point, most budget advice tends to repeat itself, but here are the things I have learned:

1. It never hurts to ask for discounts, as long as you're polite.
2. If you can't afford something, see if they'll take a trade. I've managed to get some great discounts and amazing freebies in exchange for copy-editing, blog sponsorship, and more.
3. Draw on your community. You may not have a friend who's a wedding planner, but each person in your life had talents of their own. Making a wedding from the gifts of those talents could be a beautiful thing.
4. Take a short, inexpensive mini-moon after the wedding, and give yourself time to save up again for a bigger honeymoon trip in a few months.
5. Try off-season, non-Saturday-night, or other times you can get a venue discount.
6. Choose what's important to you and spend money on that first.

And finally, budgeting tools:
1. I actually LOVE the budget tool on Martha Stewart Weddings. It lets you enter not only estimated cost and actual cost, but also payment due dates and who paid. So it has a record of, say, that Mama Mouse has paid one chicken for my dress alterations and three chickens for the venue deposit, and if you click "Mama Mouse," it will show that she has paid four chickens in total.*** It lets you set your own budget categories, while helping you think through all the things you might need to pay for. ((Caveat: IGNORE the pie charts about how much you're supposed to be spending on each category. We are not Stepford brides, people.))
2. You need a working household budget in order to save. Again, Excel. We put away money each month towards the honeymoon, and however small our contributions feel at the time, it's great to see that number increasing over the months.

And one other general thought, my friend: weddings have turned into this crazy spending spree, but it doesn't have to be like that. It used to just be a wedding, not a rehearsal dinner, wedding, brunch, gift bags, etc. Nobody will care if you can't have gift bags. Or, you know, a bottle of water, a map of the area, and a chocolate in a paper bag with a rubber stamp on the outside (total cost something like $15 plus a bit of your grocery money that month) still counts as a nice gesture. You can see other inexpensive ways to pretty up the details here. And if you're strapped, donations to charities--charities matched carefully with the recipient of your gratitude--can be very touching gifts that are good for the world. There is no need to disclose the amount you contributed.****

Hope this helps.
xoxo,
Mouse

* Well, maybe if you have a car crash or something. But you get my drift.
** Am now humming Beastie Boys.
*** I think I chose chickens because I hate money. I hate how it looks, feels, and smells. It would be more fun if we just traded chickens for stuff.
**** But look out, because you will get junk mail FOREVER.

10 comments:

Ellie said...

I definitely agree with a bottle of water - it's not too expensive, but it's such a nice thing to have and makes your guests think they were thinking of you. Also, guests aren't going to all eat everything you stick in your gift bag, but they will all drink that bottle of water, or take it with them for the trip home.
I also agree with the less expensive honeymoon - but we're keeping our honeymoon domestic and low-key - wedding-planning-world has definitely started thinking that the honeymoon has to be the trip of a lifetime, and that's not true. With any luck, you will go on a lot of trips, not just this one that you have to spend $10,000 on.
Mint.com is also a great tool for managing your money generally, and reminds you when you've gone over your budget spending in other areas. We use google docs for our budget for the wedding, but we use Mint and Quicken to track our other spending.

nicole said...

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. All of this is great, and there are so many other links worth exploring, too. Ahhh, big sigh of relief. It CAN be done, y'all!

Thanks for reminding me to draw from my community. I work for an ad agency, and we have many clients in the city where my fiance and I will marry. Helllooo, trade-outs! It never hurts to ask! The other day, I asked my boss if we could print and produce my save-the-dates here in the office. Her answer: "Sure!"

Mouse, thank you again. As always, YOU ROCK!

@Ellie, thank you for your thoughts on the honeymoon. As much as we'd love to lounge beachside, we are getting married in a mountain town where many people honeymoon. If we can afford to book a couple of extra nights there, and go canoeing or hiking or horseback riding, we'll be happy. There's no need to put MORE pressure on ourselves to plan that "trip of a lifetime" and the "wedding of our dreams." HA! - wedding of our dreams... we just want to exchange vows and party.

Hannah said...

These links are great! Money is so difficult especially with the economy the way it is.

Rachel said...

I agree that money talk is always hard. I chose to give the exact budget break down in my post because I am a numbers person, but I realize that it's all relative. Southern California is incredibly expensive, so if we'd had to rent a venue, we would have had a lot of trouble. But in my research I did find plenty of places that would have worked, if you think outside the wedding box (local women's centers often do affordable rentals as do other city buildings).

I think the main thing is to start saving, figure out how much you are comfortable spending (note that this isn't necessarily the same as what you can afford) and then start working from there. You might have to scrap some (or all of) the wedding frippery that you see on blogs, but that's fine. You want YOUR wedding, not someone else's idea of your wedding.

kaitlin said...

Um, hello. How did I not know about Nice Package? Wow. New procrastination tool...Thank you, Mouse.

Keeping things general, agree with Rachel: If you think out of the box, it will be infinitely less expensive. A friend of mine is having her wedding at a museum. It is costing her 25 chickens. Our wedding was at an estate, owned by the City, and only cost 5 chickens.

I think it's also good to look at it in terms of percentages. We spent 6% on our cake. Is that too much? Maybe for some people. But, for us it was right. We didn't spend more than 25% on food. Some would balk at that number, but for us it was just right; as I've mentioned, I never saw food as "memorable?.

There's more than one way to feather a chicken. Or skin a goat.

kc said...

Dear Mouse this is awesome. Early on I talked with certain people in our lives about how many chickens we were budgeting for certain things (dress, food) and have regretted it since. Everyone has an opinion on what you should spend your chickens on. I shared some figures on the blog because I thought it would be helpful for some brides to see, but I doubt I'll give a full breakdown since I live in one of those 60 chickens will barely buy you a venue places.

For budgeting I use a mix of Excel and Quicken. I've tried Mint with my iPhone and some of other things, but I keep going back to good ol' Excel.

Margaret said...

Just to throw in my 2 cents (not re: budgeting)... I think the idea of OOT bags is great and thoughtful, but I've never been to a wedding where they were given out. And I didn't mind one bit. I don't know if that's something unique to my friends/family? Or possibly the blogosphere is making us think it's more of a necessity when it's a luxury. Same thing for flip-flops on the dance floor. Would I use them if offered? Yeah, maybe. Do I expect them? No way. I feel the same way about favors and quite a lot of other "must haves."

Mouse said...

@Ellie YES YES about the honeymoon. Why in the world should a great trip cost so much? I once traveled for three months on $10k, not that long ago.

@Nicole YAY! So glad it helped!

@Rachel and @EVERYBODY: Rachel makes a very important point about not just designating what you can afford, but what you want to spend. (This distinction didn't occur to me because money is real tight at my house right now.)

@Margaret I KNOW, RIGHT?! Flip-flops are great, but the wedding lady was talking about fifty pairs of 'em tied with raffia (stick a fork in my eye right now). What happened to dancing barefoot? People are SUPPOSED to dance barefoot!

megschneider said...

My mother gave me the best advice for my low-budget wedding: Decide what's most important to you and your sweetie, and ignore the stuff that isn't. Check out your local craft, party or hobby store for inexpensive decoration ideas. Our reception venue handled the centerpieces -- taper candles in hurricane glass on mirror tiles, simple, elegant, and FREE! We printed our own programs; Mom's musician friends supplied the ceremony music and my fiance's DJ did the reception. We didn't do the bouquet/garter thing, so I didn't need a throw-away bouquet.

For welcome bags, how about making cookies for your out-of-town guests, and bagging them up with hand-written "we're so glad you're here!" notes? The personal touch will mean more to your guests than anything store-bought, even if they don't eat the cookies.

Best wishes!
Meg Schneider, author, Budget Weddings For Dummies

Amy said...

These are great tips! I think it's important to utilize the talents of your friends. My sister drew us a picture that we used for our invitations. A friend of mine who was studying to be a pastry chef did our cake. My cousin did the photography. Your family and friends want to help you. Calling in a few favors will help you save a lot of cash!